Amy Pascal was at the Women in the World conference yesterday. Pascal, of course, was head of Sony during the big Gossip Dump of 2014 when all those hacked emails were released. As Sarah wrote last week (click here for a refresher), it was recently announced that she’s leaving Sony but is heading up independent production in collaboration with the studio. Or, as she told Tina Brown, “All I did was get fired”.

Pascal talks about the hell she lived through during that time and is bitter about the media revealing the contents of those messages, even though she went on to discuss the revelation (not really) of disparity between male and female actors.

"I’ve paid [Jennifer Lawrence] a lot more money since then, I promise you," said Pascal. "Here’s the problem: I run a business. People want to work for less money, I pay them less money … Women shouldn't work for less money. They should know what they’re worth. Women shouldn’t take less. ‘Stop, you don’t need the job that bad.'"

She doesn’t think they need the job…but they do need the attention. Note how she describes communication with a celebrity, something I’ve written over and over and over again. These are selfish, self-absorbed, insecure narcissists:

As for what she has learned from the experience, Pascal said: "You should always say exactly what you think directly to people all the time." She added that this is hard to do with celebrities, as they are "bottomless pits of need."

That, right there, is your basic Gossip 101 and it needs to be applied to every conversation and analysis about celebrities. They are “bottomless pits of need”.

As for Pascal’s relationship with Angelina Jolie, she claims it wasn’t a problem, never affected their relationship:

"Everybody understood because we all live in this weird thing called Hollywood,” she said. “If we all actually were nice, it wouldn’t work." Rudin had called Angelina Jolie a "minimally talented spoiled brat" in a leaked email, but Pascal told Brown: "Angie didn't care."

Here’s Angie with Vivs and Knox returning to LA from London yesterday. Oh. So will you be around for Oscar week?

Click here for more from Pascal’s discussion with Tina Brown.