In general, celebrity-on-celebrity magazine interviews are bullsh-t, and we’ve written a lot about this here – how it’s never interesting or insightful when celebrities talk to each other for a magazine profile because all they do is spend time avoiding topics or hinting at inside jokes and there’s no curiosity, no actual conversation that’s meaningful and/or entertaining for the audience.

We have to make an exception though, and the exception to the rule is when Andrew Scott interviews Jordan Firstman. Their Interview interview dropped a couple of weeks ago but went viral yesterday-ish when people actually read the piece and realised they were heavy-flirting throughout and may have just confirmed that they dated?

That’s not the juiciest part though – the entire discussion is juicy. Of course there’s work talk but there’s also, like, life talk. Here are two openly queer artists casually bringing PrEP into the conversation. This is just one of many examples that make their discussion feel a lot more real than the typical celebrity-on-celebrity promo pieces. And I want to believe that it’s also intentional, that these two gay celebrities are talking about what might be relevant to the gay community, what would be recognisable to the gay community specifically. It’s even that much more notable that they’re doing it as two people who are part of this award season – Andrew for his performance in Elsinore and Jordan for his film Club Kid, which opened in limited release last week. If it’s playing in your area, go see it, it’s one of the most acclaimed films of the year, joining the aforementioned Elsinore and La Bola Negra as award contenders, making Andrew, Jordan, and Los Javis among the LGBTQ+ filmmakers who are prominently featured in the Oscar race. This is something Jordan highlights in his interview with Andrew:

“It’s amazing. We started in Cannes and everything was gay. There was the Almodóvar, the Javis, Ira Sachs, and now there’s you guys. I really want us all riding this together. I love everyone involved. No one feels shady, and no one that feels like they want it too much.”

So it’s not that Andrew and Jordan, together, aren’t serious. They are serious about their work and what it means to be representing it. But they are also unserious – which is important too. This, after all, is entertainment. And they are entertainers. And, perhaps as queer entertainers, they get that we are here to be entertained! I’m not saying that being queer is a monolith and that every queer person has to be A Character, but I did laugh when Andrew said that:

“You have to be funny. The most terrifying type of gay person is a non-funny gay person.” 

It’s the candour. It’s how I imagine he would speak without the cameras and the microphones on. Which is what they move to do towards the end, but only after Jordan gets into detail about shots and peptides and how he’s on all of them, LOL. One of the few people in LA willing to admit it. This, again, is what I mean that this celebrity-on-celebrity interview reads different from all the others. And ends up being a great look for both of them and a great read for us.

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